Interview of Zbigniew Brzezinski Le Nouvel Observateur (France), Jan 15-21, 1998, p. 76*
Q: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujaheddin in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?
Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujaheddin began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.
Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?
Brzezinski: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would....
Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?
Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea... It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire...
Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic [integrisme], having given arms and advice to future terrorists?
Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?
Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today...
Brzezinski: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.
* There are at least two editions of this magazine; with the perhaps sole exception of the Library of Congress, the version sent to the United States is shorter than the French version, and the Brzezinski interview was not included in the shorter version.
The 'Deep State' is the hidden government.
At Global Research, on 7 April 2011, Kevin Zeese reported on the bad guys.
The Link Between War and Big Finance
According to Zeese:
1. Both the military-industrial complex and the Wall Street oligarchs benefit from certain wars.
Secretary of State, William Jennings Bryan wrote of World War I: “the large banking interests were deeply interested in the world war because of the wide opportunities for large profits.”
2. The most decorated US Marine in history, Smedley Butler, said:
"I was a gangster for capitalism.
"I helped make Mexico ... safe for American oil interests in 1914.
"I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in.
"I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street... In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested."
3. In Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, John Perkins explains how World Bank and IMF loans are used to make profits for US business and saddle countries with huge debts that allow the USA to control them.
If a country refuse to "honor" its debts, the CIA topples its leader.
4. Tarak Kauff, US Veteran For Peace activist, stated, "The wealth of this country is disappearing down the tubes into the stuffed pockets of the financial/military/industrial oligarchs. Americans are being bled dry while people of the world are literally bleeding and dying from U.S.-made weapons and warfare."
On 6 April 2011, Professor Peter Dale Scott, at Voltaire Network, tells us about:
The "Deep State" behind U.S. democracy
According to Peter Dale Scott:
1. The term 'Deep state' comes from Turkey.
In 1996, in Turkey, a Mercedes crashed.
In the Mercedes were a top drug trafficker, a senior police officer, a Member of Parliament and a beauty queen.
The drug trafficker was head of NATO's paramilitary organization, the Grey Wolves (Operation Gladio terrorism).
The Deep State "is a parallel secret government, organized by the intelligence and security apparatus, financed by drugs, and engaging in illicit violence, to protect the status and interests of the military against threats from intellectuals, religious groups, and occasionally the constitutional government."
2. The influence of the deep state, the American war machine, has continued to increase.
In 1978, Zbigniew Brzezinski sent Islamist agents to Afghanistan, destabilizing the country.
Afghanistan became a centre for poppy culture, heroin trafficking, and jihadist Islamism.
The CIA under William Casey worked with the drug-dealing Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) in creating a huge Afghan narco-economy.
The BCCI was a big global drug-laundering bank.
It was corrupting US politicians, and politicians, presidents and prime ministers all over the world.
Gulbuddin Hekmatyar was probably the leading heroin trafficker in the world during the 1980’s. He also became the leading recipient of CIA largesses supplemented by an equal amount of Saudi Arabian money.
3. The media presented Carter as a populist candidate, a peanut farmer from the South.
Carter had been prepared for the presidency by Wall Street, and particularly by the Trilateral Commission, funded by David Rockefeller, and directed by Zbigniew Brzezinski.
Brzezinski became Carter’s national security adviser.
9 11 was carried out by people within the governments and institutions of many countries, including the USA, UK, other countries in Europe, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Israel.
We call the bad guys Mafia-Fascists.
Porter Goss, former boss of the CIA
From an article entitled Robert Gates, Lockerbie, October Surprise, Iran-Contra, we learn that Mohamed Atta was 'flying Lebanese heroin into Florida for Porter Goss's 911 operation'.
Reportedly, tied to Porter Goss' 911 training operation in Florida were the Muslim Brotherhood, and agents of the intelligence agencies of Saudi Arabia, Germany, Syria and Pakistan.
Reportedly, Sam Giancana rigged the US presidential election for President Kennedy. Reportedly, Giancana had links to 7 US Presidents. According to Giancana, both presidents Roosevelt and Truman were 'bought'. (Sam 'Momo' Giancana: Live and Die by the Sword)
Licio Gelli of Italy's P2 masonic lodge
In Italy, the P2 masonic lodge was a link between the mafia and the government. (http://www.american-buddha.com/darkhistory3.htm)
In March 1981, the Italian police found a list of the 962 members of P2, which contained the names of: 3 government ministers, 43 members of parliament, 43 generals, 8 admirals, secret service chiefs, top bureaucrats and diplomats, police commanders, industrialists, financiers, journalists and TV personalities.
Ex-Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky wrote that Licio Gelli, P-2's Grand Master, was the ally of Mossad in Italy and that Gelli also had a close relationship with the Gladio group. ( down with murder inc / Israel, Mossad, Iran and a Nuclear False Flag Attack )
Top people who allegedly had contact with P-2 include Henry Kissinger, Edmond de Rothschild, and David Rockefeller.
Khashoggi reportedly has links to the Bush family and Osama bin Laden. (Adnan Khashoggi Linked to 911 Terrorists)
In 1999, according to Peter Dale Scott, a former Canadian diplomat, (The Global Drug Meta-Group.) a meeting took place at Adnan Khashoggi's villa in Beaulieu, near Monaco.
Those at the meeting included a member of the Yeltsin cabal and four people with passports from Venezuela, Turkey, United Arab Emirates and Germany.
Between them they allegedly enjoyed excellent relations with: 1) Ayman al-Zawahiri, the 'mastermind of 9/11'. 2) Soviet military intelligence. 3) the FARC Colombian revolutionary group. 4) the Kosovo Liberation Army. 5) (according to a well-informed Russian source) the CIA.
Bush and Kissinger have links to BCCI
Think of the criminal bank known as BCCI.
It involved leaders from 73 countries.
And at the top was the CIA.
"Investigations by the US Senate, NY Attorney General Robert Morgenthau and several award-winning journalists revealed that BCCI was run by the CIA and top US officials." (Inside the Global Banking Intelligence Complex, BCCI Operations)
Key players were: Former CIA directors George Bush Sr., William Casey and Richard Helms, former Defense Secretary Clark Clifford and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
At Global research, on 12 October 2010, David DeGraw (Inside the Global Banking Intelligence Complex, BCCI Operations) pointed out that BCCI consisted of an alliance of certain:
1. Intelligence agencies
3. Weapons dealers
4. Drug traffickers
7. Government officials.
David DeGraw, whose new book is “The Road Through 2012: Revolution or World War III,” points out:
1. BCCI links many scandals, including Iran-Contra, October Surprise, the funding of Saddam, the sale of nuclear technology to North Korea, the funding of Osama and al Qaeda, the drugs trade, the trade in people.
2. BCCI was modeled on top intelligence agencies and corporations.
The richest fifth of the World's population receive 82% of the World's income.
3. BCCI involved people such as Manuel Noriega, Ferdinand Marcos, Saddam Hussein and the Colombian drug barons.
Time magazine reported:
"This is the story of how the wealthy and corrupt in Latin America managed to steal virtually every dollar lent to their countries by Western banks, creating the debt crisis of the 1980s;
"how heads of state… skimmed billions from their national treasuries and hid them in Swiss and Cayman accounts forever free from snooping regulators;
"how Pakistan and Iraq got materials for nuclear weaponry and how Libya built poison-gas plants.”
4. The CIA was in charge.
CIA covert operations were run through BCCI’s “black network.”
BCCI frontmen Kamal Adham and A.R. Khalil were 'primary CIA liaisons for the entire Middle East'.
Among the others involved with the bank were high-ranking Republicans and Democrats, top executives at First American Bank, Bank of America, PR firm Hill & Knowlton, cable company TCI, and auditing firms Price Waterhouse and Ernst & Young.
The black network, 'which is still functioning', operates an arms-trade business and transports drugs and gold.
6. Sources have told investigators that B.C.C.I. worked closely with Israel’s spy agencies and other Western intelligence agencies.
BCCI 'maintained cozy relationships' with terrorists, say investigators who discovered suspected terrorist accounts for Libya, Syria and the Palestine Liberation Organization in B.C.C.I.’s London offices.
7. Bin Laden had accounts in BCCI and ran a CIA/BCCI-funded camp.
8. BCCI also funded Pakistan’s nuclear weapons program when they set up the Khan Institute of Engineering Sciences and Technology.
9. George Bush Sr. and Robert Gates were key players in the BCCI financed Iran-Contra Affair.
10. George Bush Sr. and Henry Kissinger were also involved in funnelling billions of dollars to Saddam Hussein.
Kissinger and his firm Kissinger Associates played a key role in BCCI.
11. BCCI secretly owned Washington’s largest bank, First American.
Five of Bank of America’s senior officers were either on BCCI’s board of directors or helped to manage the bank.
Bank of America transferred more than $1 billion a day for BCCI.
BCCI was linked to market manipulation and money laundering.
12. The Savings and Loan scandal was part of the BCCI Affair.
Many of the failed S&L thrifts were secret intelligence shell companies and were traced back to BCCI and the CIA.
George Bush Sr., Henry Kissinger, James Baker, Robert Mueller, Robert Gates and Alan Greenspan were all heavily involved in BCCI activities. Former President Bill Clinton even played a crucial role in continuing the cover-up by killing follow-up investigations upon taking office.